Ken Hackathorn’s Thoughts on Glock Handguns

Ken Hackathorn and Glocktriggers’ Adam Hjermenrud at a class in Ohio.

Ken Hackathorn gives us an insight on his history with Glock handguns along with his opinions on modifications to the platform.

Ken writes,

Upon pressure from Pete Kokalis, then small arms editor for ‘Soldier of Fortune’ magazine I got my first Glock 17 pistol in early 1986. I have to admit that I was not very impressed with it, and never thought it would become popular. Today it is the world standard for service pistol use. Annual production numbers of Glocks dwarf all other manufactures’.  I  have been somewhat vested in the small arms training business for over 40 years. I have witnessed the rise in popularity of the Glock product line to the point that it is the leading pistol design in the 21st  Century. Lots of other companies have entered the polymer service pistol market, and while many of these designs are very fine pistols……none remotely threaten the  sales of Glock world wide.

I have always believed that an instructor should use the same weapon that the students are using. So, I have become very comfortable with either a G17 or 19 in my holster. A self defense handgun must be reliable. Here is where the Glock 9X19mm pistols really excel over all other designs.  I have trained a few folks using Glocks in my day, and one the observations I have made is that if a Glock does malfunction, it is probably the fastest and easiest pistol to clear. Generally an immediate action drill (tap-rack-bang) will get the Glock back into action with most common feed way failures.

Assuming your pistol is reliable, the only critical requirements to using it well is the need for good sights and a trigger you can manage well. Sadly the Glocks first marketed had plastic sights that were not very rugged and were easily damaged. The selection of aftermarket sights is quite vast with many really good sight combinations available. Years ago I talked Rick Callahan of Ameriglo sights to make a set of sights that met my needs. His ‘Hack’ sights remain one of his best sellers. Latest Gen5 Glocks (the best Glocks ever made) are now available with Ameriglo ‘Bold or Agent’ sights. They are superb. All the ‘cool kids’ have embraced the mini red dot pistol sights. Fads come and go……I think the red dot sight for pistols is the wave of the future. But, when you add up the pluses of current designs with minuses, I’m not ready to wade into that swamp just yet.

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Besides good sights, you need a good trigger. With a Glock, the trigger has always been a good and bad  marriage. Most of the good shooters I know have learned the Glock trigger pretty well. I see many folks run the Glock with skill levels that are outstanding. I have run Glocks from every Generation. Gen 1 Glocks actually had pretty good triggers and if you had been a double action revolver shooter, the first G17’s were easy to transition to. Gen 4 Glocks in my experience were the worse trigger pulls…which is what led me to Jeff Wilson and GlockTriggers.com. Using factory stock parts, he came up with a trigger system that was tuned to perfection and produced a really good trigger. Jeff’s right hand man Adam Hjermenrud is a magician with Glock triggers and their trigger systems are what I use and recommend.

In the last few years I have started to see more problems with Glocks than ever before. First was the issue of the Gen4 pistols. Fortunately Glock has corrected most of the faults that the Gen4 possessed. None the less, my personal experience with Gen4 Glocks has left me cold. The new Gen5 Glocks are to the other extreme, they are the best Glocks I have ever used and recommend over all others. The operator error that is most prevalent is the practice of installing a light striker spring to get a light trigger pull. Don’t do it unless your gun is only used as a paper punch and you use only Federal primers. Even then don’t be surprised if you get an occasional click instead of a bang.

Of all the things that I have experienced and observed that caused issue with the Glock design is the fact that for many shooters (myself included) when wearing gloves it is common to not get the trigger safety lever fully depressed and not be able to fire the gun. Sometimes you can kind of muscle your way through the trigger pull, but the hit will generally be not what you want. While I don’t suffer this problem when not wearing gloves, combine cold hands and gloves and the first shot can be an issue. Seems to be a problem whether you use a standard or flat style Glock pistol trigger. Kind of like getting the grip safety on a 1911 pistol depressed when in a hurry.  Getting a really good grip on the pistol when first grasping the pistol in the holster seems to really help, but cold hands and gloves often times will compromise this function. Again more of an operator error than gun oriented flaw, but it does continue to haunt me and many other shooters I see trying to run the gun with gloves.

I look at much of the ‘custom touches’ currently being done to Glock pistols with amusement. I get the fact that for many folks this look is ‘cool’. But I do not want extra holes and slots in my slide. The one in the front and the one on the top seem to be enough for me.

Until the next time, good shooting and stay safe.

GlockTriggers.com “Edge” Competition Trigger System

The Founder of GlockTriggers.com, Jeff Wilson, gives an account of how “The Edge” competition trigger system was developed.

“When we started to shoot competitively, the only thing available for Glock at that time were several different aftermarket parts.  We got all kinds of different results when we used those parts. After that experience I got the idea that if I was going to build a trigger for myself that the best thing to do was to keep the reliability that Glock built into the pistol and use the parts that they had produced because we know that they are reliable.

Another issue that I needed to address is that I have very small hands and a really short trigger finger. I knew that I needed to move the trigger back further but then I also knew that I needed to make sure that I didn’t compromise any of the safeties in the process.

These modifications where then developed into the first trigger produced by GlockTriggers.com, The Edge Competition trigger system. This was a trigger that I can now use easily with my short trigger finger. Every time out of the holster when I press the trigger to break a shot, I get perfect function every time.

Included in this system is a completely assembled lower unit that drops in the frame. It is comprised of a trigger with trigger bar modified to reduce pre-travel, trigger housing with adjustable over-travel modification, trigger spring, and connector. Also included is a hex tool for over-travel adjustment, set of three different reduced power striker springs (4.0, 4.5, and 5.0 pound), and polished safety plunger with competition spring.

Many companies will offer just a single component to throw in your gun. You will not get the same results as you will with a complete system that is already tested for function and reliability, as well as safety.”

 

You can buy “The Edge” as well as our other products at GlockTriggers.com

The Why Behind GlockTriggers

The Why Behind GlockTriggers

GlockTriggers produces the highest quality drop-in trigger systems for your Glock pistol. We use Glock factory parts as the backbone of our trigger systems. Reliability is the reason we begin our process with OEM parts. After hundreds of thousands of rounds and comprehensive research and development we have developed trigger systems that we believe to be the best available. The Edge, Vogel, Skimmer, Guardian and Hackathorn will give you every advantage you need for competition or carry. Everyone who has tested our triggers has been amazed at the quick, clean break and the short reset. Our products are used by some of the most experienced Glock operators in the Competitive Shooting arena as well as Military and Law Enforcement.

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“Being a trigger manufacturer for a Glock handgun, we take that responsibility very seriously. We know that we have to produce a product that’s going to work no matter what.”

 

We hold up very high standards of quality. We’re all friends that share a passion for the same thing – the shooting sports. And also it’s a creative environment where we’re perpetually trying to make improvements on things.

 

Glock handguns, when they’re manufactured, they manufacture them in such a way to make them extremely reliable, but not extremely user-friendly. We thought, “Well, what can we do to make it better?” On some models, we reduce the travel.  On all the models, We polish up all the contact points and make sure that all the pieces are fit properly.

 

We use factory parts because they’re reliable. That is something that is a must. Triggers have to work. Everything is done by hand.

 

“At some point in the process, every individual unit, I personally inspect.”

 

Our customers, they span the spectrum, from responsible armed citizens, to competition shooters, to military and law enforcement. And we have models that suit each one of those roles.

 

What we do is we do a complete drop in system using the factory parts. At the beginning of the trigger pull, the pretravel is much much smoother because the interaction of the metal parts have been refined. The overall trigger pull from beginning to end is going to be a remarkable improvement over the stock trigger, but we’re not going to lose the reliability that those parts offer. It’s an easy install drop-in piece, so you don’t have to modify any parts.

 

So what you get with our trigger, is you get a cleaner, smoother, crisper break, with a very positive reset.

See our testimonials to learn more about why professionals and competitive marksmen use GlockTriggers as their choice for Glock trigger upgrade systems.

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Vogel vs Edge Competition Trigger

5 Reasons to Upgrade Your Glock Trigger

5 Reasons to Upgrade Your Glock Trigger

 

Glock handguns do not deliver the precision of a Swiss timepiece.

You might expect more from a firearm that is one of the top selling handguns in the world and used by the majority of U.S. law enforcement agencies. Let’s explore the advantages of upgrading your factory trigger to a GlockTriggers custom trigger system.

 

Control

Most Glock factory metal trigger parts are manufactured using a process called stamping. This process yields parts with edges that would only be expected if an angry beaver had created them. The jagged edges and contact surfaces cause the parts to skip and drag, producing an unpredictable feel with erratic tension throughout the trigger pull.

 

Using GlockTriggers’ proprietary process, the rough edges are refined. The result is highly polished surfaces that glide freely and produce an immediate noticeable improvement in the smoothness and consistency of the trigger pull.

 

Speed

Glock factory parts produce a long take-up, mushy break and an excessive amount of over-travel. This is less than optimal when a situation calls for speed.

Many of the GlockTriggers models, such as Skimmer, Edge and G43 RP, feature our proprietary pre-travel reduction modification. This eliminates nearly half of the take-up experienced at the beginning of the trigger pull.  Our Vogel and Edge competition models include an adjustable overtravel stop, which shortens the reset and allows for faster follow-up shots.

 

Accuracy

Accuracy is the ability to perform a task consistently and precisely. When shooting for accuracy, you strive to create the smallest group possible on the target. Your trigger must function in the same way each time it is pressed.

GlockTriggers smooth take-up, crisp break and travel reduction modification assist the operator in reducing pre-shot muzzle movement. The factory trigger’s inconsistent long travel can rob the most experienced shooter of their optimal potential for accuracy.

 

Safety

The “Safe Action System” of Glock handguns is one factor that launched them to their legendary status in the industry. “The Other Guys” manufacture aluminum parts using features and specs that focus more on marketing than on maintaining the original Glock trigger design.

GlockTriggers systems are built with 100% OEM (factory) parts.  The utilization of factory parts in ALL of our trigger systems ensures proper function and reliability. We test every individual trigger in a Glock pistol to ensure that all safeties function as intended.

 

Usability

What good is it to own a firearm that is no fun to shoot? The most often heard complaint about Glocks is that the triggers are spongy, creepy and not operator friendly.

Our customers report that upgrading to a GlockTriggers custom trigger system has boosted confidence in their shooting ability, has helped to improve their marksmanship and they now enjoy their range time more than ever.

 

OEM Triggers vs Flat Face Triggers

OEM vs. Flat Face Triggers

Why OEM Triggers Win Against Flat Face Triggers

Our customers occasionally ask this question:

“Do you have flat face triggers?”  

Many polymer-framed handguns, including Glock, come from the factory with a curved trigger. There is a recent trend to replace this factory trigger with an “after-market” flat face trigger.

On a firearm that has a sliding trigger, such as the Model 1911, a flat face trigger can make perfect sense.  It allows the same action regardless of where the trigger finger is placed vertically on the trigger.

On the other hand, triggers on Glock handguns do not slide directly to the rear like a Model 1911. The Glock’s trigger pivots on the trigger pin and moves in an arc as the trigger travels toward the rear.

The front surface of a Glock factory trigger is roughly the same radius as the arc that the trigger swings through as it travels toward the rear. This allows the force exerted on the trigger to remain 90 degrees to the face of the trigger throughout the trigger pull. This provides consistent pressure as the shot is released.

On an “after-market” flat face trigger, the angle changes as the trigger swings through its travel. This produces a different angle at the end of the trigger pull compared to the beginning of the trigger pull.

We have tested “after-market” triggers from several manufacturers. We have found the results to be mostly undesirable.  In some cases, the intended function is compromised. These results are due to changes made by the “after-market” manufacturer and how far they have strayed from the original factory design.  Some of these manufacturers claim to be 100% OEM. We assure you that they are not.

Glock does not make a flat face trigger.  GlockTriggers.com takes pride in offering our customers a trigger produced with 100% OEM parts. This sets us apart in the industry and maintains the legendary reliability that has made Glock such a success.  This same standard of reliability applies to all our products and has earned our reputation as an industry leader.

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Skimmer vs Guardian Trigger System

Skimmer vs. Guardian Trigger Comparison

Comparing the Skimmer and Guardian Duty/Carry Trigger Systems: Which One is Right for You?

Both the Skimmer and Guardian duty/carry trigger systems have been in use by responsible armed citizens and several local and government law enforcement agencies across the country for nearly a decade.

For those who go into harms way in order to keep us safe, it is essential that they have the equipment that enables them to reliably and accurately deliver hits when the shot counts.

The Skimmer and Guardian duty/carry trigger systems are both manufactured with 100% Glock OEM parts that are refined and polished for the smoothest operation possible and include Glock OEM springs for reliability.

While the Guardian Trigger System has the same travel as the factory trigger and is perfect for law enforcement applications where SOP’s dictate that there cannot be any reduction in trigger travel, The Skimmer features a non-adjustable pre-travel reduction modification that eliminates nearly half of the take-up experienced at the beginning of the trigger pull.

Our unique pre-travel modification featured on the Skimmer trigger system reduces pre-shot muzzle movement allowing the operator to have greater control and enhanced accuracy.

Many of our customers have reported instant improvements in their accuracy after installing our trigger systems, giving them the confidence that they are able to effectively use their Glock handgun responding to the threat with the speed and precision needed in a critical situation.

The Skimmer and Guardian trigger systems include a polished Glock OEM ‘minus’ connector installed for a crisp, clean break and reduction in trigger weight. Both models are also available with the option of a 5.5# ‘standard’ connector if the factory weight trigger pull is desired.

When the shot counts you can rely on the consistency, reliability, and increase in accuracy offered by The Skimmer and Guardian duty/carry trigger systems.

Vogel vs Guardian Competition Trigger

Vogel vs. Edge Trigger Systems

Comparing our Top Competition Triggers: Which One is Best For You?

In the quest to find that single piece of gear that will give them that “Edge” over the competition, many of our customers find themselves making a decision between The Vogel and The Edge trigger systems. 

The Vogel and The Edge competition trigger systems are both produced using Glock OEM parts that are hand refined and polished to a mirror finish. Both trigger systems feature an over-travel reduction modification which can be adjusted by the user with the supplied allen key and a full set of 4.0, 4.5, and 5.0 pound Wolff reduced power firing pin springs allowing you to tailor the trigger pull weight to your ammo and shooting style.  The enhanced control and shorter reset of these competition trigger systems will give you the ability to deliver faster, more accurate hits on target.

The difference between the two systems is that while The Vogel has the same pre-travel as the Glock factory trigger, The Edge has our proprietary pre-travel reduction modification eliminating nearly half of the take-up experienced at the beginning of the trigger pull making it ready to go as soon as your sights are on target.

Both models are approved by USPSA and IDPA for use in ALL divisions and are a great choice for any sport shooting activities.

With the reduced pre-travel and adjustable over-travel of the Edge trigger system it has the shortest travel of all the triggers in our line up.

Both trigger systems are intended for competition and range use only. Our competition trigger systems are not recommended for duty, carry, or any other critical application.

So if you are ready to take your competition shooting to the next level with an increase of speed and accuracy, get your Vogel or Edge trigger system today.